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Smith's mind back on Euro matters as Rangers enter Champions League draw



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Published Date: 01 July 2008
LESS than seven weeks after the final whistle blew on their record-breaking European run last season, Rangers will today turn their attention to the assignment which will make or break their hopes of further extended involvement in continental competition in 2008/09.
The draws for the first two qualifying rounds of the Champions League take place at Uefa headquarters in Nyon this morning, with Rangers the highest-seeded club of those who enter the competition in the second qualifying round.

It is a stage of t
he tournament with no Uefa Cup safety net for the losers, as Celtic found to their cost against Artmedia Bratislava three years ago, and will provide Walter Smith and his players with the stark prospect of following up their remarkable 19-match campaign which took them to the Uefa Cup final with a tie which could see them eliminated from Europe even before the new SPL season has started.

Rangers managed to cope with that pressure a year ago, when they defeated Zeta of Montenegro 3-0 on aggregate in the second qualifying round, and manager Smith is less concerned by the scheduling of the tie than he is with the potential after- effects of last season's adventure. "The qualifying rounds are difficult anyway, never mind the timing of them," said Smith. "The vast majority of the teams involved are in the same position as us, coming into it straight after their close season.

"So the timing is not the problem. The problem is trying to make sure you qualify. We are a little earlier this season, in the sense that the SPL campaign begins a week later, but we have just got to play the games. We are looking forward to the draw.

"There is a danger in looking back at last season's European run, because you can start to forget the difficulties involved in the qualifying rounds. It's a great thing to get through to the group stage, but it can have a massive effect on your season if you don't. There is a lot of pressure on it. If we show the same approach as we had in the ties against Zeta and then Red Star Belgrade last year, then I would hope we will be okay.

"There is a little bit of a danger that we suffer a hangover from last season. But in one way, it can help us. We haven't had a long break since the season finished, but it's been long enough and we know what we have to do.

"We enjoyed the European run last season and know what we have to do to get another one. We have to make sure the players are ready for it, and we will do. I think last season will have a good influence on us."

Rangers are likely to be facing an either/or scenario in today's draw. Only two unseeded clubs go straight into the second qualifying round, Israeli champions, Beitar Jerusalem, and MTK Budapest of Hungary.

Other potentially difficult opponents for Smith's men include IFK Gothenburg of Sweden and Dinamo Tbilisi of Georgia. The first leg of their tie will be on 29 or 30 July with the return a week later.

Smith's plans in the remaining two months of the current transfer window will not be significantly affected by whether or not Rangers qualify for the lucrative group stage of the Champions League. The budget is more or less set just now," he said.

"Getting to the Champions League helps the overall financial position of the club, but the present transfer budget is already there. We have spent a bit of it and have a bit left to spend.

"There are still two months to go and clubs are not inclined to let their players go at this stage. We won't be buying many more, but there are maybe one or two positions we would like to strengthen."

So far, Smith has exclusively recruited new strikers and he admitted yesterday he was unsure how the arrival of Kenny Miller, Andrius Velicka and Kyle Lafferty would impact on incumbent forwards such as Jean-Claude Darcheville, who has been linked with a departure from Ibrox.

"I don't know, we will have to look at our staff overall now that we have managed to get in three other forwards," said Smith.

One player who will not be sold by Rangers is Scotland international Lee McCulloch who has been the subject of speculation over a return to the English Premier League with Stoke City.

"Stoke have never approached us about Lee McCulloch and he's not going anywhere anyway," insisted Smith. "As long as he is happy to stay at Rangers, then I'm delighted to have him."

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SEEDINGS

1st Qualifying Round (1st leg 15/16 July, 2nd leg 22/23 July)

• SEEDED TEAMS

Dinamo Zagreb (Cro), Artmedia (Slvk), NK Domzale (Slo), IFK Gothenburg (Swe), Anorthosis Famagusta (Cyp), Tampere Utd (Fin), Dinamo Tbilisi (Geo), FK Ventspils (Lat), Rabotnicki Skopje (Mac), FK Modrica (Bos), Kaunas (Lith), Sheriff Tiraspol (Mld), Drogheda United (Ire), Valur Reykjavik (Ice)

• UNSEEDED TEAMS

BATE Borisov (Blr), Levadia Tallinn (Est), Inter Baku (Az), Dinamo Tirana (Alb), Pyunik Yerevan (Arm), FK Aktobe (Kaz), Linfield (N Ire), Llanelli (Wal), NSI Runavik (Far), F91 Dudelange (Lux), Valletta (Mal), Santa Coloma (And), Buducnost Podgorica (Mntg), Murata (San Marino)

Second Qualifying Round (1st leg 29/30 July, 2nd leg 5/6 Aug)

• SEEDED TEAMS

RANGERS (Sco), Panathinaikos (Gre), Basel (Swz), Fenerbahce (Tur), Anderlecht (Bel), Sparta Prague (Cze), Dinamo Kiev (Ukr), Partizan Belgrade (Ser), Dinamo Zagreb (Cro)*, Wisla Krakow (Pol), Artmedia Bratislava (Slvk)*, Aalborg (Den), Brann Bergen (Nor), Rapid Vienna (Aut)

• UNSEEDED TEAMS

NK Domzale (Slo)*, Beitar Jerusalem (Isr), MTK Budapest (Hun), IFK Gothenburg (Swe)*, Anorthosis Famagusta (Cyp)*, Tampere United (Fin)*, Dinamo Tbilisi (Geo)*, FK Ventspils (Ltv)*, Rabotnicki Skopje (Mac)*, FK Modrica (Bos)*, Kaunas (Lith)*, Sheriff Tiraspol (Mld)*, Drogheda (Ire)*, Valur Reykjavik (Ice)*

*Playing in 1st qualifying round



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1

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01/07/2008 00:02:52
Comment Removed By Administrator
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2

jerrymanders,

01/07/2008 00:13:13
#1

Rags fc qualifying for CL? But only two months ago? How can this NOT be true?
3

paulmac,

surrey 01/07/2008 00:17:43
Europe is on full alert...Rangers fans are about to travel again!
4

Debaser,

01/07/2008 00:28:49
Old firm, speak to me.

I was just feckin witcha, dont go in the huff...

Hee hee!
5

Big Gorgeous Hugh Hefner,

01/07/2008 00:29:18
1 It's pretty sad that all you have left to hold onto is that.

Isn't it?


Stand up for the Champions!
6

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 00:32:06
4
Debaser

Stop it debaser, 'old firm' is the village idiot, all he ever wanted was a turnip.
7

paulmac,

surrey 01/07/2008 00:34:46
4....Debaser

Please don't....I can't take any more of those diddy 1 liners.
8

Debaser,

http://tinyurl.com/4kccln 01/07/2008 00:38:47
7
paulmac

Kirrie was struggling a bit with the banter at that point but the training i gave served him well.

Poor old firm. Perhaps a whip round is in order, maybe we can get him a new barrow?

9

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 00:40:16
8
Debaser

A new barrow? I doubt he could take the excitement.
10

paulmac,

surrey 01/07/2008 00:48:01
Anyhow.....

According to Wattie..."if Lee McCulloch is happy to stay at Rangers..then I'm delighted to have him"

translated.....

He's getting punted on the first offer!

11

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01/07/2008 01:06:46
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12

Silence of the Yams,

01/07/2008 01:11:10
Amazes me that Scotland's Shame are to be allowed back into Europe, utterly amazing.
13

Richardinho,

01/07/2008 01:13:45
Walter must be glad now that the SPL refused his request for yet another extention to the league last season. Otherwise they'd probably still be playing it going into the new season.
14

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 01/07/2008 01:23:31
The price of failure is travelling to some backwater country to play a qualifier.

And all because of 3-in-a-row.
15

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01/07/2008 01:37:08
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16

Colin P,

01/07/2008 01:46:39
What's wrong lads, are the Celtc stories too tame for you?

Doesn't quite give you the same thrill as coming on a Rangers thread and trying to be funny?

17

bring them on,

01/07/2008 01:48:17
Idee

We are the top seeded team.

Bet that helps put you off your corn flakes.
18

bring them on,

01/07/2008 01:58:47
Were Celtic out-bidded for Deco, or did he just not want to join them?
19

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 01:59:44
Kirrie Tim,

Regarding you post to me on another thread and I quote "you forgot to report the post referring to child abuse, along with failing to respond to post 138, I;ll assume you approve of such action. That's sick"

For you're information Kirrie I can come on these threads and have a bit of football banter with CFC supporters, and NEVER ONCE have I ever mentioned child abuse, religion, or anything sectarian on these football threads.

Subjects such as the one you mention in you're post to me may give you the idea of moral superiority but to me you just show the forum what you really are.

A bottom feeder.

As for not reporting posts, I will not because I would rather people form there own opinion of a clown like you.

Sorry for the rant lads, goodnight.

20

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:01:22
20
Daillyman

Brian, how dare you. You called me "unadequate" and that's fighting talk where I'm from.
21

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:03:38
"Unadequate" I tell you...

http://tinyurl.com/4u4m9n

Pistols at dawn over the swimming pool you cad.
22

Debaser,

01/07/2008 02:09:05
23
old firm

It must be great to have magic slate credibility.

23

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:11:50
22

You are correct I had a spelling mistake on the other thread. My mistake.

It is not a big deal to have a swimming pool lots of people do.
24

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:17:43
26 of

I really did not care where he ended up, players with his quality are out of the reach for OF clubs, but like SMM CR we can all dream.
25

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:21:19
27
Daillyman

Ask him about child abuse Brian, it's his favorite subject.

I reckon it's a lech for him, rubs his thighs Vic Reeves stylee.
26

Debaser,

01/07/2008 02:24:27
Good point KT, by acknowledging 'old firms' existence means he shares the same views.

I think that should be reported as unsuitable.
27

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:27:37
29

This is a football forum.

Why do you lower these threads to topics that we do not want to talk about.

If that subject that you constantly bring up, interests you so much join a support group.

Maybe if some of you're fellow tic supporters told you to stop you might get the message, the subject is not wanted on these threads.
28

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:31:48
31
Daillyman

Doesnt it fit in with your Utopia Brian?

The world's a wee bit different to the one in your eyes.

Ah'll leave you and yer buddy to it, that's if he's no too "unadequate" for ya.
29

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:36:44
Kirrie

I am afraid the subject you harp on about does not fit into my wee world, thank goodness. But I can see from the history of you posts it is a subject dear to you.

Sad isn't it.

Hope the spelling is okay, God forbid I hit the wrong key again.

Good night.... bottom feeder.
30

Colin P,

01/07/2008 02:39:36
33
you're right. time to leave before you make a right t1t out of yourself.

oh dear....

too late.
31

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:40:46
Kirrie

I am sorry about post 31, the truth is not making you run away is it.

Have a good night I shall pray for you.
32

Colin P,

01/07/2008 02:41:06
Hi Brian,
Where do you get your pool chemicals?
The place I used has closed.
33

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:41:35
35

Colin how are you this evening.
34

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:42:22
37

Pioneer Pool Service they are off Dixie near the club.
35

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:44:05
35
Colin P

Say what?
36

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:45:31
34
Daillyman

Bottom feeder?

I've heard Koi carp talk more sense.
37

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:46:08
Come on ladies, or d'ya need a swimming pool to comment?
38

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:46:47
41

If the hat fits wear it.

Have a nice night, again I shall pray for you.
39

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:47:46
Its better than talking about you're favourite subject.
40

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:48:52
43
Daillyman

Hugh offered an Grange Hill analogy the other day.

You bring out the Gripper Stebson in me Ro-land.
41

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:49:35
Colin must go, speak to you later, email.

Waiting for the draw tomorrow.
42

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:49:55
35
Colin P

Mon Colin, speak up. Thought he'd gone to bed and it wis safe eh?
43

bring them on,

01/07/2008 02:50:09
The Celtic Few rattled by Rangers TOP seeding.

What are the current European rankings. Rangers way ahead of Celtic? Yes, I thought so.
44

Daillyman,

01/07/2008 02:50:52
45

Thats terrific, I will still pray for you.
45

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:51:29
46
Daillyman

See ya Brian, watch out for unadequates. They'll have the water outta yer swimmin pool if your not careful.
46

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:52:19
49
old firm

You copied that, didnt ya. It was meant fir you.
47

Colin P,

01/07/2008 02:53:24
Brian
I think Kirrie T1t must be a little jealous. Maybe his idea of a pool is the old Kirkie baths?
48

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:55:04
53
Colin P

Wuss.

It's the north sea up here.

So Colin, care to expand on your #35?
49

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 02:58:30
54
old firm

You've subliminally absorbed that and recreated it from consciousness.
50

Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

01/07/2008 02:58:50
It's shirt buttons time for SS fans everywhere. That Gothenburg lot look like a bit of a handful, and Rangers won't have kicked a ball in anger before the time comes.

Meanwhile, the Celts will be enjoying what's left of the summer over at lennoxtown, sharpening our skills and set-piece drills. The Champions will be glad to get back into action to defend their title and prepare for another thrilling Champions League adventure.

The bag pages will be filled with the smiling bhoys, the three-in-a-row heroes, larking around on the training field, oozing confidence and excitement.
At the same time, the increasingly ashen faced Walter will appear too, his lugubrious demeanour transposing eloquently onto film.
Anxious SS fans will read his words with care, hoping to find in them a message of cheerful optimism that will allay their palpitations about the prospect of no european football at all this season. But such they shall not find. Walter's terse, dull, observation-of-the-obvious type remarks will stare menacingly back at them, aggravating their plight.
51

Colin P,

01/07/2008 02:59:20
55
T1t

Cool

No
52

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:00:23
58
Are you JK Rowling?

What fantasy!!
53

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:00:51
56
I knew a Gers man would understand it!

54

Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

01/07/2008 03:01:06
It's conceiveable that Rangers could be out of Europe before Queen of the South.
55

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 03:02:29
59
Colin P

So your "T1t" retort is based on following the whole evenings proceedings?

Sorry to say Colin, you are out of your element, mind you , all you "the Rangers fans" stick together regardless of right.
56

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:02:49
63

thick as a London Fog
57

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:04:37
64
You and some other afflicted seem to dwell on past comments.
This is a football forum. Ignore anything else and you'll do ok.
I do not condone anyone, from any team's support who feels the need to bring relgion, past scandals or ignorance onto these threads.
There are self-help sites and phone numbers which will provide the help they need.
58

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 03:06:42
67
Colin P

How d'ya feel about this hinda thing?

http://tinyurl.com/5mm8ap
59

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 03:08:31
67
Colin P

Up for a bit of that Colin?

All good clean harmless banter eh?

You are the people.
60

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:10:34
69
Did you actually read my comments at 67?
61

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 01/07/2008 03:14:51
Can any one of the Rangers fans on here care to enlighten me why Rangers seeding in a round of no-hopers , a round that the 3-in-a-row Champions do not require to paticipate, would annoy fans of the glorious said Champions.
62

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 03:15:55
71
Colin P

Admittedly no, I only read your #35. Apologies.

Still, now's yer chance to self-police.

The author of my link is yippin away here.

Tell him whit ye think.
63

Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

01/07/2008 03:19:45
66

"...fairly confident.."

It's that "fairly" bit, which you fairly state, that reduces one's enjoyment of the summer and times ahead.

Imagine a world devoid of this anxiety, a world where your Champions League place is cast in iron, AND, you've just won the title for the third time in a row.

We're on the lilo , in the pool under blue skies and sunshine, chilled drink with fetching cocktail umbrella in hand. A babe of Angelina Jolie proportions awaits our attentions in air conditioned villa, at a time of our pleasing.

You are in a caraven in Dorset, the run thundering down on the roof and your fat wife is laid out on the only seating available, eating a box of cadburies roses whilst watching an omnibus edition of Coronation Street with the volume turned up to full.
You lean against the cooker, staring ominously out the window at the bleak landscape, your thoughts intruded by your wife asking you to make her a cup of tea.

64

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 03:20:40
This link Colin

http://tinyurl.com/5mm8ap

Gaun, restore my faith that some of you are decent.

65

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:22:48
Okay gentlemen, of both persuasions, as I assume there are no other persuasions worth mentioning here....and which, if any of them would come on an Old Firm thread anyway?....

Please give the child abuse, bigotry, racism, etc. etc...fill in the blank_____________________...a REST!

I'm sick of reading the bile and hatred from both sides.
There is not near enough 'self-policing' done on here. The moderator obviously has a very loose set of values to allow a lot of the sh1te we read here.

Please, let's stick to football with the friendly jibes, you know, the ones that make you laugh more than they p1ss you off.

Fair enough Kirrie? I expect the same from all those who pretend to be morally superior too!
66

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:23:21
75
And what exactly is wrong with a caravan in Dorset?

Other than the nerve-rattling accent?
67

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:24:07
75
I ditched the fat wife a few years back.

;-)
68

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:24:26
75

She got the caravan
:-(
69

Kirrie Tim,

01/07/2008 03:26:38
77
Colin P

High five to that.

Now try and get #78 to agree and I'll send you a cake.

GN
70

Fayneant,

NZ 01/07/2008 03:28:57
I hope we draw Sheriff Tiraspol - the rest are too hard to pronounce!

Glad the Scotsman found time and space to bring up WGS' debut humiliation - I well remember dancing in the streets of Artmedia after that game...
71

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:31:13
83
I know. I've been on these threads for a couple of years now, and while we've had some foul-mouthed ignoramuses on here supposedly supporting our club, they are by no means the worst. I've yet to see more than 2 Celtc supporters telling them they're out of line. The non OF fans are just here to stir things up, I ignore those sad souls.

I still can proudly say that I have had the same user name since the beginning and have never felt the need to sign on under any other name.
I know only a few like that. Swordsman and Bosco are two from the other side. We respect each other. (I think)
72

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:32:05
Fayneant, you were in Bratislava for that?? I was at the Skoppje pub...were you anywhere near it??
73

Real Men Against Bhoys,

Melbourne 01/07/2008 03:34:45
#62 - It's more conceiveable that Queen of the South will score an away goal in Europe before Celtc...
74

Fayneant,

NZ 01/07/2008 03:35:24
86 - I wish!
75

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:38:24
88
cheers. We all know the worst offenders, and they're NOT Gers men.

89 me too. I was kidding. lol


76

Fayneant,

NZ 01/07/2008 03:49:00
One of the less noted advantages to the dissolution of the Eastern Bloc, and the Soviet union in particular, is the huge increase in obscure, but wonderfully named teams that now make it into the early stages of the European competitions.
Just take a look through the lists of teams, particularly the first round teams. Inter Baku! F91 Dudelange!!
77

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:52:43
I thought that was a dud German warplane!
78

Colin P,

01/07/2008 03:53:42
I loved FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk.

Just try saying that after a couple beers.
79

Fayneant,

NZ 01/07/2008 04:18:28
94 - lol. Imagine stanidng in the crowd at a home game signing...."One Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk, there's only one Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk"...
80

Colin P,

01/07/2008 04:19:42
95
no thanks...far too difficult!

you made me spit my beer

:-(
81

Fayneant,

NZ 01/07/2008 04:25:02
The club song..

"Ooooohhh no Tsar in Moscow
No Orthodox Priest to sadden my eye
No salt mines, no Red,
No long queues for bread
Every day is November the 9th (1989)"
82

Colin P,

01/07/2008 04:31:48
kinda catchy...especially if you put it to Boney M "Brown Girl in the Ring"
83

Fayneant,

NZ 01/07/2008 04:47:24
98- I preferred Rah Rah Rasputeeen....
84

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 01/07/2008 04:47:41
Colin P

I wholeheartedly agree that we should limit discussions to football only but why do you feel the need to point out that the worst offenders are not "Gers Men".

From my point of view the abuse dished out by "gers men" on this board is far and away the worst but then you probably see it differently from your perspective.

Offensive behaviour is to be condemned regardless who is spouting it not least those that make reference to " the goings on at Celtic Boys Club".
85

Colin P,

01/07/2008 05:05:29
100
Big Stevie

I was talking about those who use multiple user names, or have been banned so many times...like _John_/Chatta/Pax/Maxwell whatever he is now, and Malloy among others.

The abuse is just as bad from both.
I'm not religious at all, but that doesn't mean I condone any of the baiting that goes on here. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs.

The biggest problem I have is when people try to get me to take a side. If someone is being ignorant or outrageous with their comments, I won't get involved unless I am offended by it myself.

There have been many times that posters have started about the Big Jock stories and I've told them that's not needed, and that I feel they're an embarrassment to my club. The man deserves respect.

I won't be drawn into commenting on previous comments as Kirrie Tim tried with me tonight. If I see it, I'll condemn it. Simple as that.
But this has to happen from all the decent posters, otherwise these threads will be closed on a regular basis.

If you leave the Old Firm, and the West of Scotland, people are amazed that religion is an issue between teams and their supporters. I didn't grow up with it, so I can't see why either side has to mention anything about it.

Okay, my rant's done. Sorry.
86

Colin P,

01/07/2008 05:07:17
99

Oh, those Russians.....
87

Fayneant,

NZ 01/07/2008 05:13:50
102 - ;-))
88

bring them on,

01/07/2008 05:23:54
Who is Chazbud?

Put him on your list.
89

Colin P,

01/07/2008 05:26:06
I've only seen his posts recently. I wouldn't be surprised if he's one of the regulars.
Has Pax been around lately?

I've been working out of town for a few weeks so have lost touch.
90

bring them on,

01/07/2008 05:32:49
KT is the main man these days.
91

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 01/07/2008 05:34:09
Colin P

The only reason I mentione it was that one of the posters you were discussing this issue with was banging on yesterday about Celtic Boys Club.

Taking the moral high ground then making innuendos about child abuse. Not on at all.
92

Colin P,

01/07/2008 05:46:21
107
Stevie

I agree. That should not be an issue discussed on here.

I can only imagine what somebody who feels the need to bring that up, among many other offensive subjects, on these threads, has for a home life.
As I have said, these are football threads. Can we not all just get along and enjoy the banter?

I'm sure we can all agree that both our clubs have a history which would offend others, if they so chose to be offended. There have been some very distasteful things, and some which are blown completely out of proportion.

We should all feel lucky that we've got the ability to enjoy and understand the game. But, to make it an overriding factor in our lives is somehow quite sad.
93

Fayneant,

NZ 01/07/2008 06:44:42
109 - Shurely Celtic couldn't draw Benfica again?

Can't some of the other garden spots in Europe get the benefit of a visit from the emerald-clad ambassadors of the downtrodden?
94

CHUCKY,

01/07/2008 08:29:11
#111...As long as we don't get a venue where Rangers have recently visited i'll be happy.

Villeareal, Stuttgart, Manchester and Barcelona were fantastic places to enjoy a visit for the football.

I went back to Barca last time and the reception from the police post Rangers visit was not pleasant, I would baulk at going to Manchester any time soon.

#97.....What are the words rangers fans put to that song please?
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CondoleezzaCousCous,

01/07/2008 08:42:12
109 From the point of view of this observer (as Glen Gibbons would say), the ideal draw is a group with some sneaky wee, unfancied teams who turn out to be quite tidy. celtic then proceed to be horsed by every one of them.
The Dignified and Mighty Gers , on the other hand, then proceed to the proverbial Group of Death, but turn out to be one of those sneaky wee unfancied teams who blooter the lot of them - home and away.
This will happen.
PS who is this Chazbud dude? Never seen one of his posts, but some geezer accused me of being him yesterday (all my troubles seemed so far away....)
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sydney 01/07/2008 08:52:47
fayneant
are you looking for a place in the crowded house line up?
your song writing prowess is different class
but what the f7ck happened on nov 9th 1989??
was it a)chernobyl
b) the fall of the wall or
c) when mo johnston signed for the bears
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Bemused and above it all,

01/07/2008 09:03:31
The only surprise is that i'm surprised, 113 posts and only about 3 of them to do with football.
FFS, the usual suspects spouting their bile thinly disguised as 'banter' some people really need to get a life, FAST!
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 01/07/2008 09:12:32
The teams listed above will want to avoid last seasons Uefa Cup finalists.

Rangers should fear no one in the qualifiers.

An early assault in Europe should give Rangers the edge for the start of the SPL.

Its all good, bring it on.
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wayne bijlyeerheid,

01/07/2008 09:15:37
Looks like the smellytics 24 hour posters don't ever have a holiday. The sacrifice prize bigots like paulmac/huffner/ideefixe make, missing out on their medication etc., so as to post their bitterness from midnight on, requires a hatred that can only be passed through DNA. Bit like webbed feet.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 01/07/2008 09:21:21
#116..yes i remember it well..incredible result...nearly overturned it on the return leg.but there you go..but hey since then its been pretty fine to be a celtic fan..but at least you're all happy that celtic didnt sign deco...gee thats a brilliant wind up...miller and laffertty..5 million...4 in a row xxx
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 01/07/2008 09:27:07
#115 sad man..if you cant see that you are using child abuse for point scoring on a football messageboard then your worse than sad..luckily the majority of rangers fans are beyond this rubbish..and your hate filled bile is much like other posters ..many of whom will probably have beeen you before you had to change your name...take up a campaign in the news section if you are serious about caring..but we all know thats not the case..pathetic xxx oh and the posts have been reported as unsuitable.
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Bosco Bhoy,

Donegal 01/07/2008 09:32:55
Almost tragic isnt it that when good decent bears such as Colin P and Fayneant ask for only footie banter comments we start to see the usual vile and disgusting comment from people who really should know better.

Its a shame as their is plenty of 'normal' material to rip the other crowd about than resorting to point scoring about child abuse.

FFS doesnt any of these sad individuals have kids.



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Bosco Bhoy,

01/07/2008 09:34:43
Anyway heres hoping RFC get a decent team in the draw today.
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Stanley,

01/07/2008 09:34:52
#127 thats low even for what has been posted by smeltic fans. I do hope you dont have any relatives killed in a disaster, and then find that the same deaths are used by disgusting suppoorters of a football club as point scoring.
Truly a new low.
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Blue Chip Liewell's Drunken Son,

01/07/2008 09:36:48
127. Chucky,

Can you give me some evidence of this? I's really like to see it. I STRONGLY suggest you contact the football authorities and the police if you have any evidence of this wrong-doing. In fact, if you can produce your evidence on here, I'll contact them myself. That's a promise.

I'm of the opinion that you have just made all that up Chucky, but feel free to prove me wrong.

Now Cosmos, what were you saying (the poorest cover-up excuse Celtic fans can muster) about point scoring? I look forward to your condemnation of Chucky.
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Bosco Bhoy,

01/07/2008 09:36:53
126 Nervous

Maybe you would have been in for the likes of a Deco but thats probably why we have dominated the opening part of this centuary as you went for broke during the 80s/90s and have been left with a major financial 'chernobyl' on yer hands.
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CHUCKY,

01/07/2008 09:37:01
Can we get back to the football??